Friday, July 11, 2008

never mind what the Bible says

So what I'm advocating is for us, first, to acknowledge that good Christians disagree. Some of us are open and accepting toward gay people. Some of us are accepting of gay people, but we don't affirm their homosexual behavior. Some of us are neither open nor accepting. So, what we need to do is say that there is diversity and that good Christians disagree. And then we need to have some charitable and intelligent dialogue rather than the name-calling and polarizing discourse we've had in recent years.
Mclaren, Charlotte, NC newspaper interview, Jan 26, '08


(Here's a hint--you can tell when a liberal is trying to pull the wool over your eyes when he or she starting talking about "polarizing discourse", particular in regards to blaming those opposed to them and their ideas. It really just means that they want people to 'play nice' so they can sneak their agendas in.)

Sure, never mind what the Bible teaches, never mind all the places God says homosexual sex is sinful. We just need to sit, talk, "converse", be nice, and not judge and call such actions sinful.

Isn't this the whole dialectic method (mythos)? Thesis to antithesis to synthesis? Instead of trying to determine right and wrong, take all of that and try to reach some kind of agreement?

4 comments:

taddelay said...

I'm guessing you think everyone who doesn't share your opinion just "doesn't care what the bible says." Now from what you appear to think about homosexuality, i probably agree mostly with you, but if you aren't aware of the academic and very biblical reasons some side with thinking that homosexual behavior is acceptable, then you might not want to lob yourself into the "those liberals are just wrong and hate god" camp.

Ken Silva said...

"the academic and very biblical reasons some side with thinking that homosexual behavior is acceptable,..."

We would agree there are secular academic reasons those unregenerate and still in sin would want to justify other sin.

However, there are zero Biblical reasons for thinking what God calls "abomination" and "unnatural" is no longer sin.

jazzact13 said...

--I'm guessing you think everyone who doesn't share your opinion just "doesn't care what the bible says."--

Look again at what McLaren said. Does he care about what the Bible says about homosexuality, or does he care about trying to make people play nice and come to some kind of agreement?

You will not find him trying to be so concessionary in, for example, views of the end times, where he basically holds a full preterist view and thinks that futurists and Dispensationalists are wrong and doing a lot of damage.

And heaven help you if you question Obama's use of scripture.

So, given the clear biblical teachings concerning homosexuality, what proofs can you offer that would make us think it is 'acceptable'?

taddelay said...

i don't have any intent to explain the view to you. Again, it's not one that i hold. But to be so closed minded as to think that everyone who is emergent or liberal (big difference between the two) or another synonym for "different than me"... to think that equals foolish will end up resulting in the sort of predictable ranting of apprising.org which never converts or helps anyone- unless by 'help' you mean 'make people who already agree with you more sure they are right and everyone else is wrong.'

why not try to understand the view of the other?